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Automatic Weapons For Civilians by Mike-the-cat Automatic Weapons For Civilians by Mike-the-cat
Yes, I'm that much of a gun nut. Of course, that means more background checks and licenses for those that want them, but oh well.
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Edited Jan 20, 2017
Now this is a topic that I certainly agree with you on these days when it comes to self-defense, but I still have many immense doubts that firearms would enable civilians to be able to take on well-trained professional soldiers of the military....zekeeugene.deviantart.com/art/….
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rogangr8 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2016
MAOR DAKKA
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ACommissionReviewer Featured By Owner May 1, 2016
My question is why do you need an automatic rifle or at least a military grade one? 
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner May 1, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why would you need a semiauto when you can make due with a muzzleloader?  >:V

It's for the sake of being able to own something that is more on par with military hardware.  If you are a law abiding citizen, and have a permit, you should be allowed to possess a machine gun.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And he wonders why I blocked him,
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've refrained from blocking for worse offenders than him.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He is one of those, seriously this guy can't even describe socialism yet he is a socialist. He thinks South Korea is socialist, its been a democracy for about 30 or so years before that it was a fascist dictatorship that hunted socialists down to kill them.
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ACommissionReviewer Featured By Owner May 1, 2016
"Why would you need a semiauto when you can make due with a muzzleloader?  >:V"

Yeah, why? If you have a gun for defence than you don't need really anything more than a pistol and for hunting you don't need a fully auto rifle.

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It's for the sake of being able to own something that is more on par with military hardware.  If you are a law abiding citizen, and have a permit, you should be allowed to possess a machine gun."

But just because you can doesn't answer why though.  But I wouldn't even be asking that if there was better regulations in the US like in Switzerland. There almost 1 in every 2 people have guns but the thing is there are heavy regulations for how to use them and strict rules about handling them. If you use a gun to threaten someone in Switzerland you lose your gun, that's how strict it is there. In America you could be on the FBI's watch list and still be able to get a gun no sweat. 
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because Switzerland is a smaller country, and therefore it's easier to enforce gun laws?
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ACommissionReviewer Featured By Owner May 18, 2016
Switzerland have very strict gun laws, if you use it inappropriately once you lose it. 
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ShirouZhiwu Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A major waster of bullets except in rare situations, but if you have the money...
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do you know what drives up the cost of the machine guns themselves?

You can only own them if they were manufactured before a specific date.

As you can imagine, that drives up the cost considerably.

I wonder how FPS Russia does it.

But yes, still expensive.
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ShirouZhiwu Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was speaking of the cost of ammunition. A full automatic rifle could be produced for the same price as an AR-15 as they are built pretty much the same.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was under the impression that I acknowledged that in my previous comment.

Reading over it again, I was wrong.
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2wingo Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Personally, I find full-auto fire to be more of a liability than an asset in assault rifles, unless you expect to find yourself in a situation where you need to make people hunker down while you make a run for it.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Have you ever shot a gun fully auto?
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2wingo Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yes I have, several times in various calibers. In fact, let's do a little math:

Let's say you're using a 1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle, which uses a 20-round magazine and has a rate of fire of up to 650 rounds per minute, roughly 11 rounds a second. That means that keeping the trigger depressed will empty the entire mag in less than 2 seconds.

Or maybe you're using an AK-47 with a 100-round drum magazine. It has a rate of fire of about 600 rounds per minute, which empties the mag in 10 seconds flat.

Or if you're using a small submachine gun like the 9mm IMI Mini-Uzi, with a 50-round magazine. At 950 rounds per minute, you're out in less than 3 seconds.

Keep in mind that the average gun owner's training is not nearly as extensive as that of a soldier's, so it's doubtful that most would be able to fire accurately in full-auto, particularly in a self-defense scenario. Semi-auto forces you to slow down and pick your shots, wasting less ammo and greatly reducing the chance of unnecessary collateral damage.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One person who commented on this suggested background checks.  Receiving training on using a machine gun would also help.

Besides, just because I support loosening restrictions on fully automatic guns doesn't mean I think they should be on the same level as semiautos.
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2wingo Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Now those are policies I fully agree with.
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:iconmike-the-cat:
Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I simply think that the restrictions on fully automatic guns should be relaxed.
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IAmTheUnison Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I second that motion! :)

I'm not even a gun nut, and I support civilians having access to automatic weapons.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013
For the ranges that the average shooting takes place, a man with a Bellini semi-auto 12 gauge firing 00 will do better than a man with a fully auto scarygun wearing a really kewl headband.

Full auto.  Lots of fun.  Noisy.  Cool.  Wasteful.  Not as fast to fill the air at semi-close quarters.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yet another reason to legalize them.  Shooting full auto is still not as easy as one thinks.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
Never happen.  And no, it's not.  But, neither is shooting a pump shot gun, semi-auto shotgun, pistol, revolver, or semi-auto rifle fast.  I'm not sure difficulty on the range qualifies as a good reason to legalize a weapon, though.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's only fair to legalize them, even if they are still more tightly regulated than other firearms.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
"It's only fair to legalize them, even if they are still more tightly regulated than other firearms."

Using your statement, they are already legalized.  Any class 3 license holder can own one if he or she has the cash available to purchase it.  Lots of cash, more paperwork, etc., but legal.

Wow! I am every bit as wise as I think I am :D
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Huh.  I guess I meant "loosen the restrictions on them" then.  I've heard those things are expensive, and even then, some states have outright banned them.  I might be mistaken, but you can own one in Montana as long as you don't take it with you into other states.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
Many states will let you own one with a class 3.  Most class three holders don't bother.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah.  I probably need to do more research.  The most I know is that even if it were legal to own a machine gun, the license to own one is ridiculously pricy.
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013
Or he could have a Benelli :D
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TheAtticusNew Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Because nothing makes me feel safer than knowing that the guy next door can have a weapon with rapid fire.
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Suffer360 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013
I do also, but with VERY strong background checks.
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VenomoftheFrog Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
Hm, rifles are ok, but not fully automatic machine guns.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do you know what "bumpfiring" is?
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VenomoftheFrog Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
Still, what seems safer, a hunting rifle, or a M14?
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Neither, in the hands of a person who knows how to use one properly.
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VenomoftheFrog Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
True, true....but if that's the case, why do you need a fully automatic assault rifle, when you know how to use a hunting rifle or a revolver?
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Same reason I'd own a semiautomatic anything.
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VenomoftheFrog Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013
Ok then, but I still believe machine guns shouldn't be sold to the public.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If it were legal, I'd buy a fully automatic AK-47.  Or several uzis.
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
This is honestly where I draw the line dude.  I have a hard enough time living next door to hunters.
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vaidlus Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Professional Artist
Turn them on the military.
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GrendolVonCarstein Featured By Owner May 30, 2013
my one question is, why does one need automatic? im okay with people owning guns, but i dont see the need for an automatic rifle : /
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Many reasons. First of all, it's so that civilian firearms are more on par with military hardware. Second of all, if semiautos are legal, attempts to control people who bumpfire is futile. Third of all, if plenty of law abiding citizens have good reasons to own a semiautomatic rifle, it only makes sense to loosen restrictions on machineguns.
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ICareTooMuch Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013
This is why I am glad I live in Canada. No one needs a gun here because there are hardly ever any shootings. I think there was under 200 deaths by firearms last year, but over 9000 in the USA. That's why I love Canada so much more than America, it's so much safer here. Not to mention better health care.

Also, Canada was rated free-er than the USA, so I even have freedom! Go Canada!
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What about violent crime in general? Oftentimes, in places with looser gun control, the total violent crime rate is lower, even if the gun violence rate isn't.
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ICareTooMuch Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013
Still less.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What are the gun control laws like in your country? Are semiautomatic rifles allowed? If so, what sort of regulations are in place?

If you take a look at individual States, you'd realize that the more violent areas have the toughest laws. I live in an area with relatively lenient restrictions, and violent crime isn't too much of an issue where I live, at least not compared to other places.
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ICareTooMuch Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013
The problem is, those states do not know how to enforce gun laws effectively. If they did, there would be considerably less gun violence. That is why Canada's banning of guns works so well, they can enforce it.

basically hunting rifles, pump-action shotguns, some semi-auto shotguns, crossbows, sawn-offs ect. those things are legal.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Keep in mind, culture. Even if you were to find some civilization in the Milky Way where more gun control actually does a damn thing (as opposed to being a placebo or making things worse), IT. WILL. NOT. WORK. IN. AMERICA.
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